Let's revisit "water-boarding" for a minute. Does it or does it not fall under the category of torture? If so, then is torture a.) wrong, b.) violation of the War Crimes Act or c.) Bush policy in spite of a. and b.?
The answer is C.
Cheney indicated that the Bush administration doesn't regard water-boarding as torture, and allows the CIA to use it. "It's a no-brainer for me," Cheney said at one point in an interview.Ok, now let's do this again and this time let's suppose that "water-boarding" is not torture. (Click here to read a definition and description of the practice) To get to this supposition we have to ignore the fact that it is torture and completely embrace a position, completely unfounded by reason or fact, that it is not torture. Ok, you with me? You there? Now, since we agree that "water-boarding" is not torture, do we collectively believe that dunking prisoners underwater so they believe they are drowning is the American way? Is it really a reflection of the 'shining city on a hill' that we present America to be?
Seriously, defend this practice. How are people not outraged by the hubris of this administration?
(P.S. To quote a friend of mine, the 'grrr Cheney' photo that's also in the article from the Raleigh-Durham News Observer is absolutely priceless)
Mmm ... wowwypops.
the fact that an enemy does something worse shouldn't be an argument to justify something that is otherwise reprehensible.
PD, maybe we should start educating terriosts, on how we are the 'shining city on a hill'. Because I'm sure these awesome guys can be won over with rehetoric.
lol....wake the fuck up.
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at October 27, 2006 1:17 PM
Waterboarding sounds a lot like good old fashioned revival baptism to me.
What's so wrong with bringing the savage brown people to Jeeeeee-ZUS?
Can I get an a-MEN?
(Prob'ly ought to start waterboarding heathen liberals, too)
Research shows that more often than not, torture leads to prisoners telling their captors exactly what they want to hear...instead of the truth. So what's the use?
What's the use? It establishes a precedent for President Hillary to have it done to Wonk.
The last time we had a large amount of Prisoners of War on American soil, and sorry Castro GITMO is America, was WW2. During WW2 Americans complained about how well we treated German POWs. (shoudn't it really be PsOW) They had food, a bed to sleep in, they were questioned and given work to do in the camps. They ate better than American troops in the field in Europe, their flag officers (generals, admirals, etc) were given private bungalows with an assistant, allowed recreation supplies (paint sets, writing supplies) and treated with dignity. Guess what, they told us stuff, good solid intell because they saw that we were the GOOD GUYS.
How far we have fallen. How weak and pathetic we are. Our treatment ot detainees (ne POWs) is a shame.
We are better, therefore we must act better. That these people are evil is no excuse for us to become more like them.
George Bush says the terrorists hate us because they hate freedom, well I think his plan to defeat them is to just take away all our freedoms, instead of curing the hypocracy that really pisses them off.
I'm going to puke now.
FUCK BUSH
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I couldn't agree more with you, in fact, we should be giving these guys wowwypops singing them to sleep each night.
Are you fucking shitting me? These bastards cut people's heads off for sport so cut the sympathetic outrage. Don't confuse a little physical discomfort for real torture, believe me, the people from the Middle East know the difference, too bad the left here doesn't.
Besides, the CIA claims they don't use it that much because it mostly leads to false information. Get over it.