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Catty. Chatty. And Occasionally Trashy.

Apr 28
Jose, can you see?

A group of Latino artists put together a version of the national anthem in Spanish. I didn't think this was much of an issue, but I just found this: Bush Opposes Singing Anthem in Spanish. Bush doesn't want people singing the anthem in Spanish, because "I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English." Um, yeah. And maybe you could learn to speak in correct English, Senor Presidente. Your first lesson: "nu-cle-ar", not "nu-qu-lar". "Are our children learning?", not "Is our children learning?"

But seriously, folks, is this a big deal? If people want to sing the national anthem in a way that makes them feel more patriotic and makes them feel a closer connection to the country, what is wrong with that? Honestly, so many native English-speakers butcher the song to extremes all the time. As long as the singer is on pitch, I'm open to whatever language they want to sing it in.

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Is the United States apart of Mexico? No.

Sing the song in frickin English. The language the majority of this people speak.

Wonk [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2006 4:44 PM

It's a song. Sing it however you please.


Anon at April 28, 2006 5:39 PM

wonk is a punk

Anon at April 28, 2006 5:40 PM

Bush = The Decider

jimmycity at April 28, 2006 5:49 PM

Uhm, I think it ought to be sung in English. I mean it's America, English is the language spoken here. Why would you sing God Save The Queen in Farsi? Gross, I agree with George Bush...I just threw up in my mouth and then swallowed it.

Pinkdome at April 28, 2006 6:25 PM

where i come from (college) speaking a second or third language is a skill and does not determine citizenship.

bush's - are racist - and racism usually rules - as it seems to here.

Anon at April 28, 2006 7:54 PM

lol

what a jackass.

Wonk [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2006 8:19 PM

If I remember correctly, there's something in the words of the song about a (perhaps mythological) "land of the free," where, presumably--if such a land existed--people could sing in any language they wished.

Jim McCulloch at April 28, 2006 10:23 PM

Hmmmm -- If it wasn't for our 'greatest generation' all of Europe would be speaking German. I guess that would just mean all of Europe would be more free! So what if foreign citizens mock us in our own streets with a badly translated rendition of 'The Star Spangled Banner' (and I quote - 'their flag flew yesterday')? Who are we to say that OTA's (other than American) can not behave this way on American soil. Hmmm ... what does bind this country's people together anymore? I will ponder this as I exercise my 2nd ammenment right (and responsibility) at target practice in the morning.

texanlady at April 29, 2006 12:31 AM

Don't like it with Spanish lyrics? Sing it with these lyrics instead:

To Anacreon in Heav'n, where he sat in full glee,
A few Sons of Harmony sent a petition;
That he their Inspirer and Patron wou'd be;
When this answer arrived from the Jolly Old Grecian;
"Voice, Fiddle, and Flute,
No longer be mute,
I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot,
And besides I'll instruct you like me, to intwine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

j at April 29, 2006 8:00 AM

I'm a gun-toting chick too, like texanlady, but apparently that's where the similarity stops. As an American, I'm honored that those for whom English is a second language would want to sing the Anthem in their native language. I mean it. Honored. It seems poignant to me, not disrespectful at all. You know, one of those things that makes this such a great country. I want to know what happened to the tolerance that is, or was, one of fudamental strengths of this nation.

Don't Mess w/ Pink at April 29, 2006 1:11 PM

Messing with Pink,

I find it very interesting that you write me off as someone with nothing else in comon with you other than we both tote guns. How closed minded of you. I am also an American. I work hard, follow the rules and pay all my taxes (even though I don't think they are fair) . Do you? My opinion matters as much as yours, no matter how far apart they are. It is true, I do not 'tolerate' the flaunting of our country's laws, by illegal immigrants or the American companies that employ them. I feel that the agreement by (most of) our fellow citizens to follow a set of accepted rules on how to live is, or was, one of the fundamental strenghts of this nation. If we don't all have to follow the law, why should any of us bother?

texanlady at April 29, 2006 9:35 PM

BTW, Pink, what better way for a new citizen to practice their new 'second language' than joining in with their fellow countrymen to sign their country's anthem?

texanlady at April 29, 2006 9:39 PM

The melody of the damn song is to a British drinking tune for crying out loud. People need to get over themselves.

Hickorette at April 29, 2006 9:53 PM

Great headline BB. To me, "as long as the singer is on pitch" is the key point. It's actually a pretty hard song to sing, and often sung badly, don't you think?

Gritsforbreakfast at April 30, 2006 5:29 AM

pig latin ok?

gringo at April 30, 2006 11:18 PM

"Hmmmm -- If it wasn't for our 'greatest generation' all of Europe would be speaking German."

Shit, if it were up to Ben Franklin, we'd have already been speaking German!

PanzerDSS at May 1, 2006 1:51 AM

The kids in the elementary school where I teach say the Pledge of Allegiance in both English and Spanish. I think it is kind of nice, while they are still learning English, for them to know what the words mean. I'm not so sure we should switch languages at ballparks and such, but at least the kids and other non-English speakers are learning a little more about the meaning of the words, instead of just droning on ignorantly.

Yucca at May 1, 2006 9:36 AM

Texanlady, it’s “flouting the law,” not “flaunting the law.”

If DMWP wants to say you two have nothing in common, she can damn well say it. She was simply defending the idea that someone can tote a gun AND not be hot-and-heavy angry over the Spanish translation of our (super crappy, in my opinion, which matters just as much as yours) national anthem.

My question is, why the hell did you feel the need to bring the Second Amendment and target practice into it?? You lookin to shoot yourself some Messkins? Redneck.

You want to start quoting the bill of rights? You need to read the First Amendment before you start threatening people with the Second.

p.s. CRACKING UP at british drinking song. TOUCHE.

RockStar at May 1, 2006 6:00 PM

Well if she's a redneck then your a rascist. There is not a damn thing wrong with believing that people should sing the USA's national anthem in English

Wonk [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 1, 2006 7:06 PM

Thank you Wonk. Rockstar sees red too quickly to read what I posted, I think. I pointed out that we are both entitled to our opinions. MWP can say whatever she wants. So can I. It is good to be an American woman. RS was right that I misused a word. The flaunting of the practice of flouting our laws disturbs me. I mentioned the target practice not because I hope to shoot anyone, much less a Mexican (take note of the proper spelling, BS), but because exercising my right to vote does not seem to be powerful enough to keep a foreign threat at bay. (MS-13 among others) I hope this doesn't end up in civil unrest, but if even some of the 400,000 foriegn citizens residing in our city rise up in violence, I will be as prepared as possible to protect and defend my family and my country.

texanlady at May 2, 2006 10:43 PM

Texanlady, you assume that because immigrants are demonstrating that they’ll “rise up in violence.” Yet YOU are the one threatening with your guns. Racist, Wonk? She’s your racist, buddy. How many millions of people demonstrated earlier this month – PEACEFULLY – in favor of immigration rights?? And yet you still go to TARGET PRACTICE in anticipation of some brown-skin uprising. You’re out of your fucking mind, lady. That is the very essence, the very definition, of racism.

Let me give you another little lesson about the Second Amendment, sweetheart. It was actually created to allow citizens to protect themselves against the government, should it become too oppressive. It was not created so that the trigger happy among us to replace the military. That’s the first mistake you guys always make. The right to keep and bear arms is about defending ourselves from Washington D.C.

One more thing. Nowhere in DMWP’s post did she say you didn’t have a right to your opinion. Nowhere here I am saying that, either. If you’re going to put your opinion out there, you better be ready for someone to disagree with it – and you need to be ready to defend it without just complaining that you have the right to your opinion. That doesn’t do shit for your argument.

RockStar at May 3, 2006 5:17 PM


p.s. I can pretty much guarantee you that the Mara Salvatrucha were not among the demonstrators on Monday.

RockStar at May 3, 2006 5:26 PM
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