You had me at hello.

I told you it would pass overwhemlmigly. They let the people decide and thats exactly what they did.....overwhelmingly.

We are spending entirely too much money and time attempting to get the Consitution into proper order. The anti-marriage amendment was only the 400+ amendment. Rather than screw around with amending it a piece at a time, I suggest the following as an omnibus amendment that would get the Constitution where the majority thinks it needs to be:

"Proposition 1
For the purposes of this Amendment, a "Person" shall be defined as a member of the genus and species of Homo sapiens that (A) is: (i) a heterosexual member of the Caucasian race; (ii) a member of a sect that purports to worship the teachings of Jesus Christ; and (iii) a member of a household that has an annual income in the upper twenty fifth percentile of households in the United States; or (B) any two or more cells joined together and then residing in utero in any female of the species, regardless of whether such female is a "Person". Immediately upon exit from the uterus of such female and at all time thereafter, the resulting organism shall not be considered to be a "Person" unless such organism is otherwise qualified under the definition above.

Nothing in this Constitution nor any legislation enacted in the state of Texas shall prevent any state, county or municipality or other governmental entity or agency or any "Person" from: (i) discriminating against; (ii) having hatred of; or (iii) removing or refusing any rights to any organism that is not a "Person".

Any question of whether any organism is entitled to be classified as a "Person" hereunder shall be answered conclusively and finally by any ordained minister (who is also a "Person") of a Souther Baptist Church or any church having teachings identical or similar to the Southern Baptist Church.

No public school shall allow the teaching of any doctrine or theory regarding the origin of the human species unless such doctrine or theory has been approved, in advance, by a minister described in the immediately preceding paragraph, who shall also lead such school in prayer, each day."

See how much time, effort and money would be saved if we just embrace the inevitable.

I am quite sure that if "they let the people decide" about;

- Slavery
- Inter-racial marriage
- Sodomy laws and
- Separate but equal laws

They would have all been upheld by the "people" whom you hold in such high regard. Our Republic was built, not on the notion of rule by public vote, but on a balace between elected representatives and the courts.

Just because the "people" have decided, as you so eloquently crow, does not make it "right". If memory serves, the "people" of Germany voted Hitler in - under your limited argument, I guess that made it "right".

Now if we can just pass an amendment banning divorce, my marriage will be safe. Until then, we're all (well, those of us who can marry) at risk.

Gayinmidland trying to draw a correlation bwt prop 2 and hitler is asinine. Thats the problem with you libs you always go to the hitler playground argument when trying to make a point.

And all those little points you made at the top were not issues that could have been decided by the people on a prop vote.

Bravo.....moron.

Wonk:

First, don't call me a moron. Secondly, I am not a "lib", I am a Republican, thirdly, you are incorrect on what people can vote for. If the Texas legislature votes on an amendment, it then must be put before the voters before it becomes a part of the Texas Constitution.

It is certainly not inconceivable that the Texas legislature (in the 1950's) could have passed a bill saying it is wrong for a white woman to marry a black man. I am sure it would have passed the legislature thn the voters would have given a thumbs up.

As far as Hitler, I only used him as an example of why the "people" are not always "right" when they vote. To use a more current example Wonk, do you think the people of California were "right" when they voted down the proposition yesterday that would have required parental notifcation for a minors abortion? If you have the politics I think you do, you will not agree with this vote, nor think it is "right". Just like I think the vote in Texas yesterday was wrong even thought the people said it was "right".

Gayinmidland. I am sorry I called you a moron. You have proven youself not to be many times.

Is the Hitler Playground next to Six Flags?

Gayinmidland is most decidedly not a moron. Wonk, are you able to have an argument without calling people names? Talk about playground behavior.

Rawhide, nicely put.

I said I was sorry.

Rawhide needs to run for office. Every campaign ad can end with that "woo--pish" whip sound, and it can be Rawhide snapping out the R's that don't focus on the right issues.

Well said.

Wonk,

That's true and was big of you. Kudos for that.

But I've noticed the name calling before. Most of us will gladly debate if not personally attacked. So go for it!

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, PINKDOME! WHAT WOULD WILLIE DO?

Thanks Rawhide! I needed to hear that.

At their celebration at the Great Hills Baptist Church, one of the members of Texans for Marriage said that this wasn't about gays, it was about marriage. Marriage as an institution is falling apart and they want to fix that. He said that they next thing on their list was to work on divorce reform. I think Texans just strapped on banana peel slippers as they headed out the door to climb the slippery slope.

They are now going after no-fault divorce...anyone who says it is to easy to get a divorce in Texas with the no-fault divorce laws never tried to divorce my ex... a republican lawyer...

As long as dicks get hard and liquor is served, there will be stuff going on that the religious folks can't legislate out of existence. I'm going to guess that at that Great Hills celebration there were any number of "in the closet" bisexuals, and a good percent of at least one-time adulterers. And I'm not judging them. They're only human. Poor dumb assholes.